Michael Ostrolenk speaks with Lawry Chickering, author of Beyond Left and Right, co-author of Voice of the People, Founder and President of Educate Girls Globally, and founder and co-editor of the Transpartisan Review. Chickering discusses his transpartisan approach to foreign policy and how it centers around governance – the interactions among people to solve problems. This is in contrast to our current model of government, in which debats centers around how money should be spent. Chickering provides examples of his work with Educate Girls Globally to highlight how creating institutions based on leadership and ownership can foster this change. To learn more about Chickering, visit the website of Educate Girls Globally and check out his books (Beyond Left and Right)(Voice of the People), and the Transpartisan Review.