Vindman: Trump Used Putin’s Talking Points While Speaking To Ukraine’s President

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CSPAN3 11 19 2019 10 02 48

Lt. Col. Vindman testifies about Crowdstrike conspiracy theory in House hearing.


Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman said he was aware that Trump and Putin were pushing the same conspiracy theory.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman testified on Tuesday that President Donald Trump was parroting talking points pushed by Russian President Vladimir Putin during his July phone call with Ukraine’s president.

According to RawStory, Vindman said he was aware of the conspiracy theory surrounding Ukrainian involvement in the 2016 election but that there was no basis for the theory.

Democratic counsel Daniel Goldman asked Vindman, who was present on Trump’s call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on July 25, if Trump’s discussion of the matter was part of the State Department’s official talking points:

“President Trump asks President Zelensky for a favor, and then raises this theory of Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election. He says in the highlighted portion, ‘I would like you to do us a favor though. Because our country has been through a lot. And Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine. They say CrowdStrike. I guess you have one of your wealthy people. The server, they say Ukraine has it.’ Now, Col. Vindman, was this statement based on the official talking points that you had prepared?”

Vindman answered, “No.”

“And was this statement related to the 2016 Ukraine interference in the 2016 election part of the official U.S. policy?” Goldman continued.

“No, it was not,” Vindman responded.

“Now, at the time of this July 25 call, Col. Vindman, were you aware of a theory that Ukraine had intervened or interfered in the 2016 U.S. election?” asked Goldman.

Vindman answered that he was and said he was aware of no credible evidence to support the theory.

Asked if he knew that the conspiracy theory was also a talking point of Putin, Vindman answered: “I am well aware of that fact.”



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