Rudy Giuliani: I Deserves As Much Sympathy As The Whistleblower
President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani is busily defending his actions in Ukraine against reports that some State Department officials were concerned by his activity.
Guiliani told CNN on Thursday morning that he “should be as sympathetic as a whistleblower,” adding, “I did my job and now all these people are torturing me.”
The whistleblower complaint released on Thursday contends that “multiple US officials were ‘deeply concerned’ about his activities speaking with Ukrainian officials and nationals” — a charge the former New York City mayor called “total nonsense.”
Giuliani has maintained that the State Department was well aware of his activity, which included pressuring the Ukrainian government to pursue investigations into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, as well as alleged corrupt activity between Democrats and Ukrainian officials related to the Russia investigation.
"I spoke to the State Department during the course of this situation, I told you, at least 10 times, and I met with them," he told CNN.
Giuliani said he held onto a “nice little trail” of text messages with top US diplomat to Ukraine Kurt Volker, insisting that he would make use of such records if he needed to defend himself.
He pointed to Volker’s assistance in setting up a meeting between Giuliani and Andriy Yermak, one of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s top advisers.
The meeting took place on August 1, just days after Trump’s now-infamous phone call with Zelensky, in which the president asked his Ukrainian counterpart for a “favor” — investigating his potential political opponent.
The State Department issued a statement last month acknowledging that Volker assisted Giuliani with the meeting but said the department had not directed Giuliani to speak with Yermak.
"Mr. Giuliani is a private citizen and acts in a personal capacity as a lawyer for President Trump. He does not speak on behalf of the U.S. Government," the statement said.
According to the whistleblower complaint, Giuliani’s August meeting with Yermak was characterized as a “direct follow-up” to the president’s phone call with Zelensky, but Giuliani told CNN he was not aware of this intention.
He said he was unaware that Trump had mentioned his name to Zelensky, that he and the president never discussed the phone call, and that he never spoke with Trump about his meeting with Yermak.