Ron Johnson, A Millionaire: Healthcare And Food Are A Privilege, Not A Right

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Millionaire Republican Senator Ron Johnson told a group of high school students that healthcare and food are a privilege, not a right according to MSNBC.

Millionaire Republican Senator Ron Johnson told a group of high school students that healthcare and food are a privilege, not a right according to MSNBC.

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) spoke to a group of high-school students near Milwaukee on Friday morning, and he heard from one student who asked, “Do you personally consider health care as a privilege or a right?”

The far-right senator replied: *“I think it’s probably more of a privilege. Do you consider food a right? Do you consider clothing a right? Do you consider shelter a right?

What we have as rights is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Past that point, we have the right to freedom. Past that point everything else is a limited resource that we have to use our opportunities given to us to afford those things.*

*“Sen. Rand Paul talked about this on the floor of the Senate. He’s a doctor. He said the minute you consider health care a right, well, who’s going to satisfy that right?

And those people who have the skills to satisfy that right, what does that make them if they’re forced to provide you with that rightful product or service?”*

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SWEETSWOO
SWEETSWOO

WRONG! DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS MAN IN A POSITION OF POWER WHEN HE SAYS AT ANYTIME HE CAN CUT YOU OFF OF YOUR FOOD AND YOUR LIVELYHOOD? WAKE THE HELL UP PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY YOU DID NOT LIVE IN THE ERA I DID WHEN WAR TOOK IT ALL AWAY FROM US AND THESE SOCIAL SAFETY NETS WERE PUT IN PLACE TO SAVE US FROM DEATH! THERE WAS NO WORK THEN, THE STOCK MARKET WENT BELLY UP AND COMPANIES CLOSED THEIR DOORS. Millions out of work and we were in a WW right after this- SOUP LINES WERE CREATED SO MAYBE YOU COULD EAT THAT DAY! HOW STUPID ARE YOU THAT YOU WANT THIS ALL TAKEN AWAY? YOU ARE LETTING THE CORRUPT TAKE IT ALL AND DIVIDE US AND FOR THAT I DIRECTLY BLAME ALL OF YOU FOR AGREEING WITH THIS IGNORANT BIGOTTED CORRUPT POLITICIAN! WISCONSIN NEEDS TO WAKE THE HELL UP.

PlainDarkSedan
PlainDarkSedan

What the Constitutions and other documents say, in fact, is that those rights not enumerated in the Constitution are treated to be existent. That only SOME rights are enumerated in that document. It is not all encompassing, by any standard.

Furthermore, food and healthcare are necessary for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Nowhere does it say that Congress has any rights, or even any authority, other than that lent by the people. It certainly does not say that they have the right to raid the Social Security trust fund, either. But they did it.

miketheorganist
miketheorganist

So we see two things ... (1) Unconstitutional laws are nothing new, with the federal government taking powers not granted to it, and (2) the Senator does not know how to get across what he is trying to say.

So let me say it for him. Rights are contained within the individual and do not require anyone else to supply them. If it's benefits you want, SAY SO and use the correct term, then amend the laws that govern the government so that such a power is formally granted. Rights are one's ability to use one's own natural faculties in any manner one wishes as long as the natural rights of others are not infringed thereby. Benefits are the supplying by one person, or by the whole of the population via central command and control, of the needs of a person who can't, or won't do for himself. I get it that you want benefits. Grant the power, by means of the mechanism provided in the Constitution. and you can have them.

We have been saying for a long, long, time, that if people have needs, the federal government can assume power to take care of those needs. Unfortunately, this means it can assume power to do bad things as well, because the people are unwilling to check it through their representatives because they want the benefits more than they fear the assumption of power.

miketheorganist
miketheorganist

One other thing. The right to life is the right to live out one's time here on this earth as long as his own body will allow. It does NOT include a claim on others to provide sustenance. If it's benefits you want, say so. Please do not think there's a claim on others to provide rights.

miketheorganist
miketheorganist

In order to properly understand rights, it's needful to understand the difference between natural rights and benefits (especially benefits whose purveyous call them rights). Natural rights come from natural law that was put on this Creation by a Creator. Those rights exist even if they're suppressed. Benefits come from people holding power or who run businesses. They only exist as long as the people who say they exist say they do.

Oppedon
Oppedon

I happen to disagree with your definitions and there are plenty of good people who agree with me. Can you accept that there can be honest disagreement about your definitions of rights and benefits and from whence they come?

Appstar
Appstar

Would like to expound on the structure of society and intrusion by government. We are inherently free as People of the world, God's divine creation. The only things we were designed to control were animals, the earth, vegetation. God's 'Prime Directive' for Man was to 'replenish the earth with People' . You cannot do that and not be in good relations to other People. The USA govt. has made itself a hindrance to People, especially by making laws which create monetary irresponsibility and usurpation of the Citizens ability to provide for their own self and other People they Love and Respect.
A healthcare law should be about enabling the making of choices for Citizens to provide their own healthcare, resiliency, fortitude - not- forcing People to purchase anything, whether it is a product or service. That is making a Right where there is no Right. The law makers should not be exempt from laws they make. Nobody should be prevented from growing their own food on their own property. Zoning laws prohibit this capability. What is disparate is the link between healthcare and food. If you cannot eat healthy by growing what you desire to eat, then being forced to be without that food by zoning laws is infringing on your other Rights defined in the 4th Amendment of the USA Constitution!...Which USA Congress is supposedly sworn to uphold.

Momz216
Momz216

Ok life liberty and the pursuit of happiness means, you go get it yourself, there is way too many fraudulent welfare and disability cases that waste $ on deadbeats, I live in Cleveland and you wouldnt believe the audacity of the Men here who think it's perfectly fine to knock up their girlfriend and stand behind a tree and let all the public assistance do and pay for everything...its pathetic really but this is what he is talking about not starving people Go out and make a living and be productive

dmcd2004
dmcd2004

Sen.Paul is an eye doctor and Ron Johnson has no standimg unless he is ready to apply the laws he passes to himself.I keep hearing about people recieving welfare.What I don't hear about is before I was sick.I paid school taxes and watched these people that had children given tax credits for all these different items that the less paid never qualified for.So the more you made.The more free tax deductions you recieved.
So to listen to anyone that takes all that free money and claims that food and health are not rights.Either are tax cuts to the wealthy and then making the poor pay more.
They should both be voted out.
They should also have to live by the laws that they pass

domingo13
domingo13

And killing people is a right?! So yeah. Life for murders is a privilege. 🤯

BiancaC
BiancaC
quopro2355Nickynines
quopro2355Nickynines said: The Constitution allows the people/government to do pretty much anything we wish to do so long as it "promotes the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity". This is mentioned in the Preamble of the Constitution which lays out the fundamental purposes and guiding principles and that courts have referred to it as reliable evidence of the Founding Fathers' intentions regarding the Constitution's meaning and what they hoped the Constitution would achieve. NASA, the Centers for Disease Control, the National Weather Service, National Institutes of Health, The Interstate Highway System, all the Science Agencies that have provided research and advances in health and all types of science are NOT mentioned in the Constitution. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Social Security, Medicare, and the G.I. Bill are not mentioned in the Constitution. Noe of these agencies are mentioned either- United States Department of Agriculture, Department of Commerce, Department of Education, etc. etc. I could go on for days. But these agencies and the good work of our government has caused us to become one of the greatest countries ever. If we stuck only to what was written and failed to use our imagination of what could be, what our Constitution actually DOES ALLOW instead of having the myopic and false belief that you and others have that somehow our Constitution only allows what is written in it, we would be a backwater nation taken even further advantage of by oligarchs and the very wealthy. The Constitution does limit the Federal government in many ways, but it also allows us, the citizens, to do what we decide is best to "promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity' and that includes whatever we decide that is- including healthcare, welfare, scientific research of all kinds, exploration of ALL types, protecting consumers from unscrupulous banking and businesses, regulating communications and guns also.

Completely agree.

ELAshley
ELAshley

UDHR? What country do you live in? In AMERICA if you want to eat you either have to work to earn money to buy the food you want, or take what you can get standing in line some where... the kindness of strangers... not 'your right have this or that' by simple virtue of 'wanting' it. The Soviet Union had the kind of 'system' you describe. It failed miserably... literally, millions of people were miserable because they couldn't get basic things like, food? clothing? Toilet tissue? meat? Wake up. Your politics has robbed you

ELAshley
ELAshley

Robbed you of context, of history, and common sense.

Let's Go
Let's Go

Both he and Ryan - two ignoble oligarchs, suck $200,000 a year out of taxpayer's pockets, and want more, even if means shaking Joe and Jane Blow from the Medicare and SS benefits. They'll get it with this Congress, unless we make them realize that their taxpayer salaries and benefits are "Entitlements" and should be cut.

Richard Bell
Richard Bell

How appropriate that his last name means dick.

RavenMoonGoddess
RavenMoonGoddess

I live in Australia, where we have universal healthcare, paid for by a 2% taxation levy. I worked my whole life, and now I am retired and in receipt of a government funded Age Pension. Last year I was diagnosed with cancer - an incidental find when I had a CT scan (free) for a problem with my throat.I had surgery to remove the tumour - my surgeon was world class, in fact, he is the Chairman of the International Cardio-Thoracic Surgeons Association, and a Professor at Sydney's most prestigious university. He is also a pioneer in minimally invasive cardiac surgery. I was in hospital for a week - all free, including all drugs and dressings. Pathology revealed I have adenocarcinoma of the lung - even though I gave up smoking in 1994. This particular cancer affects former smokers and those who contract it via second-hand smoke. Upon my release, I had home help for 6 weeks - 3 times per week someone came who would help me to shower and dress, and do household chores. I was also loaned such equipment as I would need - a shower stool and a seat thingy which went over the toilet, but which increased the height, and it had handles to help me get up. My surgery opened up my back, as they started to do keyhole, but I bled and it was uncontrollable. Since my release I have been under the care of Australia's first hospital dedicated to treating and curing cancer - I have an excellent Thoracic oncologist, an Integrative Oncologist, an Exercise Physiologist (including a gym where I go twice a week) and a Dietitian. All free. At no time have I had any symptoms. The tumour they removed was the size of an orange. I would've been dead by xmas. Without my ongoing care, none of which I could afford to pay for, I would be dead right now. This is why healthcare is a right, not a privilege. I wish Americans could understand that.

Pogo
Pogo

I beg to differ with this rich, pig headed, selfish, greedy piece of snake shit. Our Rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. In order to have life you have to have good health and nourishment. To have good health you must have good food. That all comes hand in hand. You have some karma coming to bite you in the a$$ Mr. Greedy Moneybags!

Pogo
Pogo

Well he certainly is one.

Jujewels
Jujewels

So nudity is illegal so by default it is an absolute right to have clothes free or bought.

KentonF
KentonF

Senator, you’re out!

American resistance
American resistance

Pretty cruel words coming from a giraffe face

up2itru
up2itru

Let me understand this, his health care for life IS NOT A PRIVILEGE? Wow, I didn't know that. The $15/month food stamps I receive is A PRIVILEGE? I didn't know how lucky I was to get that to feed myself once a month. SHITTER!

I suppose Sen. Paul's trip to have surgery in CANADA was not a privilege either since he was afraid of how awful the American health care system is these days. Wow.

barondarby
barondarby

i just received a bill for $300 because a doctor stopped by my hospital bed and told me to make an appointment with her office when i got released. American healthcare is a joke, a very very expensive joke.

Megahaole
Megahaole

The headline oversimplified the reasonable and nuanced response that the Senator gave to that question. There is a right to contract for food and healthcare but none to coerce others to provide it to you.

PseudoIntellict
PseudoIntellict

That how he feels, so he is damned determined to make sure there aren't any privileged people other than whites conservative Christians.

SplitTail1957
SplitTail1957

Right dude! When YOU go without food, air & medical treatment for say, 32 or more days, only then can you come over here and talk to me about what constitute "rights"! Until that time suggest you shut up, get yourself a one-way ticket, and fly off to Russia with the other traitors that have permeated our Country.

Abe555
Abe555

We all should have the right to buy food or healthcare, but we aren't entitled to have it for free. We don't have a "right" to other people's goods and services. Our Constitution protects our rights to do what we want with ourselves from the government. If you want a "right" to other people's stuff, you would have to go to a socialist country and work for the hive.

OleSalt48
OleSalt48

Why should Congress have a right to insurance that they won't allow for the People they Represent to have!

wrtoth
wrtoth

Wisconsin, you need to vote this creep out next!!!!

YvOwensPhD
YvOwensPhD

... which begs the question, is the 'right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' an inalienable right in the Constitution or not? Because AngelIEU is right, you need food and health to stay alive, and good luck pursuing either liberty or happiness if you're starving and sick due to misfortune or social disenfranchisement. Americans seem to have such difficulty deciding what kind of society they want to live in, and certainly what kind of society they inherited from the framers. (Hint: It was a humane one, with social welfare factored in, which is to say 'baked in' as one of its assumption of inalienable Human Rights.)

Sixstringslinger
Sixstringslinger

Just remember Wisconsonites this is what your elected Senator thinks of you remember this at the polls.

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songbird4
songbird4

Do not forget it between now and November because the lies will be forthcoming telling you what he thinks you want to hear, not what he believes!

Keith G
Keith G

Three days ago, on December 10, we celebrated Human Rights Day. This is the day the United Nations General Assembly adopted, in 1948, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR): a milestone document proclaiming the inalienable rights which everyone is inherently entitled to as a human being regardless of race, colour, religion, sex, language, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.

I've been thinking, during some of the televised political debates, from people like Bernie Sanders especially, who keep saying "health care is a basic human right," that maybe they were overstating it a bit. I mean, yes, it's something that everyone should be entitled to, in an ideal world, but to call it a basic human right, it doesn't really seem up there with food, clothing and shelter.

So I did a little investigation. It's really easy, nowadays, to get some information, to check multiple sources, to get a sense of the reality of a thing. Mr Johnson: You may want to try it!

And you know what? Bernie is right. Health care IS a human right – it says so right in the UDHR. It's in Article 25. Would you like me to read it to you? Ok, sure!

Article 25. (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control. (2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

So no, it doesn't say in the Bible that health care is a basic human right, and it is not locked into our DNA code that medical care is a human right. But it is embedded in the document that the world's governing body collectively and of its own accord decided was important enough to act on, to vote on, and to adopt as a UN Declaration: Healthcare and food are human rights.

Jimcracky
Jimcracky

Rand Paul is an Ophthalmologist who, unable to recertify with the existing Medical Specialties Board created his own “alternative” Board chaired by his wife. That’s the kind of doctor this dimwit millionaire is quoting. Seriously.

1965TBIRD
1965TBIRD

Rand Paul went into the gym a public space while still infected with the Coronavirus . He basically was permitting himself to pass the virus around amongst people that were unsuspecting of his intent. That makes him a known criminal . He was intentionally doing this after being diagnosed. Given the chance that he is even going to survive this virus based he is now positive with the virus he's in a position that he purposely exposed all those people to the deadly threat, yet he's not going to stand up and say I did something wrong?
RAND PAUL IS SELFISH PRICK WHO IMPOSES HIS OWN LEVEL OF HARM ON ALL WHO ARE HIS PEERS. HIS HUBRIS AND STUPIDITY WILL BE A TESTAMENT TO HIS GREEDINESS. SIMPLY PUT THE VIRUS KNOWS NO BOUNDARIES, WE CAN ONLY HOPE HIS ACTIONS BRING ABOUT SWIFT CHANGE.

Glenn56
Glenn56

I love these replies that assume that American capitalism still exists. This oligarchy and technocracy that have been imposed on us is showing us exactly how they roll during this and previous crisis. Remember the response to Katrina. "Great job Brownie." You should not put all of your eggs in one basket the old folks said.

LeftyScientistNate
LeftyScientistNate

Since when? Then I guess that I will just make my own drugs. Education might be next on the list... In heavy reading? Oh, just mentioned that... Hmm... It will only take 2 more of these things before a nice ris We're coming together, faster and faster. That awhile is cjicken, anyway. But how sick his mind is and how weak that he is. So is the donald.

Cvickery
Cvickery

Sen. Johnson quotes Sen. Rand Paul - "And those people who have the skills to satisfy that right, what does that make them if they’re forced to provide you with that rightful product or service?”*

Well it makes them rightfully insured with affordable health care available to all our national republic who pay into it, including GOP senators whom were once covered without paying any monthly premium. (Obama ended that giveaway cost)
You can also say that middle class workers are disproportionately forced to pay higher tax rates in order to make up the difference, top 1% wealthiest Americans and corporate businesses are kept right stunningly in an insurmountable privilege of wealth used to purchase food for extravagant parties, healthcare, multiple homes, luxury yachts and Automobiles. Those are whom the rest of us call the "real welfare recipients" bankrupting AMERICA

LaurieRose
LaurieRose

I wonder how many times his cooks have spit in his food.

Eattherich2020
Eattherich2020

eat the rich

Cottontop
Cottontop

Please don’t equate atheist with fascist. One is about religious beliefs and the other political beliefs. One does not have anything to do with the other. There are atheists who are conservative, believe it or not, and I am atheist and liberal....definitely NOT a fascist.

pacerjp4693
pacerjp4693

Sen. Ron Johnson does not understand that in today's modern industrial world all of the major countries like the U.S. have Universal Health Care as a right. I took a 25 member student group and my family to Vienna, Austria for a 3 month Overseas Study Program tied into the University of Vienna. The first night we were there, following a rich Viennese meal, one of our students got an upset stomach and threw up all over her pillow. The Pension Meister called their medical service and soon afterward an ambulance arrived with a doctor and a nurse. They treated our student and gave her a prescription for getting some additional medicine in the morning from the drug store and she was able to go to sleep. I asked the doctor, "Doesn't this work for this socialist health care system interfere with your regular practice? " He said, "No, it's just one night a month and I don't find that hard to fit into my life." The students, at 2a.m. in the morning were all surprised that here was a doctor making a house call in the middle of the night. There was no charge for their visit.

Anti-government
Anti-government

Ron Johnson, you can go fuck yourself and get your ass out of my office!

JCrichton
JCrichton

"What we have as rights is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

And exactly HOW are people supposed to have those rights without food and health? What an asshole.

bjasmine
bjasmine

"Do you consider food a right? Do you consider clothing a right? Do you consider shelter a right?"

YES, you monstrous, evil twit, yes I do!

lbarton82520
lbarton82520

shaking my head in despair. What do we do when folks cannot afford food? Already something like 10 million children are living with food insecurity. Food helps brains grow. He must not have eaten much as a child because he talks like a moron.


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