In 2018 recording, Trump asks how long Ukraine can fight Russia without US help

Dan Broadbent

Lev Parnas just released a 2018 video in which Trump asks how long Ukraine can last in a war against Russia.

At a dinner with high-end donors in April 2018, Donald Trump asked how long Ukraine will last in their war against Russia without support from the United States.

Through his attorney, indicted Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas released the full video to CBS through his attorney, Joseph A. Bondy. Giuliani's other indicted associate, Igor Fruman, reportedly took the video and forwarded it to Parnas.

As you'll recall, Trump has claimed that he does not know either Parnas nor Fruman.

In the video, Parnas is heard saying that then-Ukraine Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch is "leftover from the Clinton administration" (she was appointed Ambassador to Kyrgyzstan by George W. Bush in 2005). Trump can be heard saying "get rid of her" and "take her out" in regards to Ambassador Yovanovitch.

Various topics are discussed during the dinner, but just after 38 minutes in, the conversation steers towards Ukraine.

At 40:45 in the recording, Trump asks "how long will they last in a fight with Russia?"

Others in the room say "not very long," without assistance from the United States.

Parnas said “The biggest problem there, I think where we need to start is we got to get rid of the ambassador. She's still left over from the Clinton administration.” Later, Parnas adds “She’s basically walking around telling everybody, ‘Wait, he’s gonna get impeached. Just wait.’”

Trump replied "Get rid of her. Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."

According to CBS News:

In a statement, Bondy said he was making the recording publicly available because it is in the public interest to hear what was said. "Given the importance to the national interest we decided to release this recording in a manner intended to ensure equal public access and in an effort to provide clarity to the American people and the Senate as to the need to conduct a fair trial with witnesses and evidence."

The video was taken by another associate, Igor Fruman, who later sent it to Parnas, according to Bondy. The full video was also given to the House Intelligence Committee.

Watch the video below:


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