Franklin Graham: Trump Stopped Sinning When He Became President

Far-right pastor Franklin Graham claims that Trump has yet ‘to sin’ once since becoming President.

Far-right pastor Franklin Graham claims that Trump has yet ‘to sin’ once since becoming President.

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Gary Markle
Gary Markle

~ JESUS THE COMMODITY ~ ~ As Seen On TV ~ Televangelists, selling Jesus by the gram. Mega-churches ministered by evil men seeking wealth and power, deceiving those seeking spiritual guidance. Stealing their wages, stealing their souls and telling them how they want them to vote. All in the name of Jesus. ~ Anti-Christians ~ The scriptures flow as sweet as honey from their lips, seducing and robbing in the name of God. These are the ones Jesus spoke of that would come in the End Times and deceive many in His name. Anti-Christians: You will know them by their bigotry, their hatred, and their contempt for “others”.

Gary Markle
Gary Markle

~ The Separation Of Church And Hate:

There is a good reason why Church and State must always remain separate. Let’s get something straight, right from the start: A theocratic state is not a free state, and never will be. I’m sure it was never Jesus’ intention nor was it His will that anyone should be dominated in His name, the name of Christ. That is the will of men. To be accurate, the concept in itself is anti-Christian. You can only follow Christ by choice, not by legislation.

It seems some people are more intent on casting stones at perceived sinners than propagating the love of Christ. ~ “Above all else, I command you love one another”. ~ This was the message that Jesus preached, and as far as I can see, the worth of a soul will only be measured as such. But I can assure you of one thing, when your time of judgment comes, you won’t be asked to recite scripture, but rather, if anything, the question will be: Did you get the message and live by it?

For all of you people out there on the religious right, you should try to remember that looking for sins to condemn, and people to persecute in the name of God, is simply Satan’s way of keeping you from seeing what is good and praiseworthy. It’s Satan’s favorite means of deceit; getting people to hate and kill each other in the name of God and Christ Jesus. Twisting scripture to incite hatred and division.

Understand this; that by doing so, you are defaming the name of Christ, associating Jesus with bigotry and hate. Jesus was never cursed with these feelings, these sins that you commit in His name. It’s widely agreed that He rose above it all, and to use His name for the justification of spreading contempt and hatred for anyone is true heresy. It isn’t Pro-Christ by any means, but clearly Anti-Christ.


~ It doesn't really seem to matter at this point if you believe in God and Christ or not. What we have are Anti-Christians, the antithesis of the persona Jesus, and they are attempting, through legislation, to declare America to be a theocratic state and nation, legitimizing discrimination under the false guise of "religious freedom". If you're not one of the "chosen" you're fair game for persecution, oppression and abuse. It’s a perfect "us" and "them" scenario. If you express opposing views to the “Order” or you're a non-believer, or in any way perceived as a “sinner”, they'll be coming for you.

~ Anti-Christians ~ The scriptures flow as sweet as honey from their lips, seducing and robbing in the name of God. These are the ones Jesus spoke of that would come in the End Times and deceive many in His name. Anti-Christians: You will know them by their bigotry, their hatred, and their contempt for “others”.

Gary Markle
Gary Markle

~ The Christian Dilemma:

The greatest threat to America, and indeed to the rest of world, at this point in history, comes from the staunch advocates of right wing ideology, and I must submit this warning to you: There is a grave problem with the right wing movement, in that; they seem to possess a distorted sense of entitlement. They’ve set themselves apart, and seem to think that their faith gives them the right to view the world from a platitude of conceit, through condescending eyes, and with a false sense of superiority. They actually believe themselves to be superior beings, with a manifest destiny and some strange notion that God is on their side. A people with a desire to conquer, under the false guise of Christianity, seeking to dominate in the name of Christ, their view of humanity being reduced to nothing more than a matter of “us” and “them”.

What they fail to realize is; if the Christ you believe in leads you to view other humans as lesser beings, then you are a follower of the anti-Christ. The plain truth is; God doesn’t have a religion and God doesn’t discriminate. Any religion that professes to be the only true religion, or that they‘re special in the eyes of God preaches false doctrine. If the Spirit of God is truly with you, it will only be known by acts of “unconditional” love and charity. No religion can claim exclusive rights to God. He belongs to all that He has created, and to foster a belief in “us” and “them” is to divide humanity, not unite it.

And so it will be, in The End, that those who have set themselves apart from their fellow man will find that they have set themselves apart from God. The worth of a soul will only be measured by how much it has loved, nothing more, nothing less. Woe to those who have taken the widow’s mite and built castles and empires in His name. They have incurred a great accountability, their suffering will be unending.

Even Jesus will not claim to be Christian, but will only proclaim the glory of the Father. And when He returns they will shout: "Here we are Lord!" And He will respond: "I never knew you". They have forsaken the Word and have become prisoners of the Numbers.

Those who have put themselves first will be last.

walter77777
walter77777

Oy vey iz mir! Trump has told us lie after lie. he started out on his first day in office by sending out Sean Spicer to tell us that Trump's inaugural crowds were bigger than Obama's, something which was easily disprovable. Then he had Kellhyanne Conway tell us that these were not lies but "alternative facts". Trum averages two public lies daily except when he gives things like the SOTO Address when the lies come out in bunches.

Linda7846
Linda7846

For many years now I have watched the right play the Jesus game it isn't new they just upped the anti! I agree with what you said about how they bastardize what Jesus said and use it to show their superiority. Still nothing new! They traveled the globe forcing their manifest destiny on the tribes in all countries foisting their god on them because they were pagans! It didn't matter that they had a god because the Christians didn't recognize any god but their own! This is not new no its the same game just higher stakes!

JAM661
JAM661

Gary Markle, Thank you for your comments. You hit it on the nose. I believe in God (just look out the window and see how everything so perfectly interconnected with each other) but have lost faith in man made Religion. I see Religion as a wonderful way to control people and it works very well. If you dont do this you will burn in hell. I dont know if there is a Hell or Heaven but I do know right from wrong and for any Christian who can just pretend that Trumps lies, sexual harassment and assualt, money laundering and his racist positions is not a Christian no matter if they go to Church or not.

libbysart
libbysart

When once asked, ‘What is the definition of sin?’ Billy Graham gave the following answer:

A sin is any thought or action that falls short of God’s will. God is perfect, and anything we do that falls short of His perfection is sin.

The Bible actually uses a number of examples or “word pictures” to illustrate what this means. For example, it tells us that sin is like an archer who misses the target. He draws back his bow and sends the arrow on its way—but instead of hitting the bull’s-eye, it veers off course and misses the mark. The arrow may only miss it a little bit or it may miss it a great deal—but the result is the same: The arrow doesn’t land where it is supposed to.

The same is true of sin. God’s will is like the center of that target—and when we sin, we fall short of His will or miss the mark. And this is something we do every day; as the Bible says, “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). Even when we aren’t aware of it, we commit sin by the things we do (or fail to do), or by the way we think.

NURREDIN
NURREDIN

Someone needs to tell Rev. Graham that Mosaic law says you should be put to death for adultery,and Yeshua (Jesus) said you must follow Mosaic law until the Earth no longer exists...Matthew 5:17-18.

dgolson45
dgolson45

Graham is clearly and absolutely deluded! This ersatz, right-wing and pitiful "christian" thought is insulting to what Jesus and Christianity are truly about.

kamillertime
kamillertime
Gary Markle
Gary Markle said: ~ The Separation Of Church And Hate: There is a good reason why Church and State must always remain separate. Let’s get something straight, right from the start: A theocratic state is not a free state, and never will be. I’m sure it was never Jesus’ intention nor was it His will that anyone should be dominated in His name, the name of Christ. That is the will of men. To be accurate, the concept in itself is anti-Christian. You can only follow Christ by choice, not by legislation. It seems some people are more intent on casting stones at perceived sinners than propagating the love of Christ. ~ “Above all else, I command you love one another”. ~ This was the message that Jesus preached, and as far as I can see, the worth of a soul will only be measured as such. But I can assure you of one thing, when your time of judgment comes, you won’t be asked to recite scripture, but rather, if anything, the question will be: Did you get the message and live by it? For all of you people out there on the religious right, you should try to remember that looking for sins to condemn, and people to persecute in the name of God, is simply Satan’s way of keeping you from seeing what is good and praiseworthy. It’s Satan’s favorite means of deceit; getting people to hate and kill each other in the name of God and Christ Jesus. Twisting scripture to incite hatred and division. Understand this; that by doing so, you are defaming the name of Christ, associating Jesus with bigotry and hate. Jesus was never cursed with these feelings, these sins that you commit in His name. It’s widely agreed that He rose above it all, and to use His name for the justification of spreading contempt and hatred for anyone is true heresy. It isn’t Pro-Christ by any means, but clearly Anti-Christ. ************************************************************** ~ It doesn't really seem to matter at this point if you believe in God and Christ or not. What we have are Anti-Christians, the antithesis of the persona Jesus, and they are attempting, through legislation, to declare America to be a theocratic state and nation, legitimizing discrimination under the false guise of "religious freedom". If you're not one of the "chosen" you're fair game for persecution, oppression and abuse. It’s a perfect "us" and "them" scenario. If you express opposing views to the “Order” or you're a non-believer, or in any way perceived as a “sinner”, they'll be coming for you. ~ Anti-Christians ~ The scriptures flow as sweet as honey from their lips, seducing and robbing in the name of God. These are the ones Jesus spoke of that would come in the End Times and deceive many in His name. Anti-Christians: You will know them by their bigotry, their hatred, and their contempt for “others”.

This is truly a fabulous summation. Would it be okay to share, with or without attribution?

Xiachang
Xiachang

So for an evengelical the bible only applies if you are in office. Otherwise, if you are a bigot that cheats on your wife and never enter office those are sins. If you enter office they no longer count as sins. Therefore why do we need Jesus to forgive us for our sins when we can just do public service.

JVC123
JVC123

These folks make my head hurt! So, he (according to Frank, anyway) hasn't "sinned" (how he knows this goes unanswered) since becoming President. That'as all well and good, but you voted for a guy whose record for Sin was pretty much unparalleled when you voted for him---those Sins are recorded for posterity,Frank. You voted for someone who is the Polar Opposite of what you purport to support. It's not that he hasn't Sinned since taking office that's important. Let's "keep our eye on The Ball", Frank!

Michael Kelley
Michael Kelley

Anyone who actually will watch the video will see that this is a GROSS MISREPRESENTATION of Dr. Graham’s words. He never said Trump “stopped sinning” when he became president. What he said was that none of the ALLEGED affairs he had have taken place while president like with Clinton and Kennedy, but were in some cases DECADES ago and still are only alleged. The point is, that you can’t judge a man for all of his past mistakes; only God can do that and knows whether he has repented. All we can do is consider him today.

Mooncalf
Mooncalf

Criminals always 'find Jesus' while in prison, usually in an attempt to increase their chances of an early parole for "good behavior".

LMB63
LMB63

This was awesome! Praise God for your education on sin, separation of church and state and the reminder of what the anti-Christ looks like. I am so prayerful that the right people will READ THIS and change their ways. One thing is for sure, the End is coming! Great post!!! Absolutely loved it!!!

Amiri
Amiri

Oh, so that’s how it is. Who knew Trump morally transformed due to political affiliation, and that morals are centered around extramarital affairs, not mundane stuff like bombing people and insulting others. Whew, thanks for the knowledge!

Christian Left
Christian Left

From Franklin Graham's Facebook page. Were you lying then, Frank, or are you lying now? Or can you even tell the difference?

RealAmericanPatriot
RealAmericanPatriot

Josh Marshall is a moron....if you watch this clip the topic of Trump not sinning was not even discussed.

Watch the clip and you'll see that the only lie that was told was by Josh Marshall....he posted this tweet by the way.

Spiri
Spiri

(Ah, this is one of those 'return button=post comment' sites. Oops). Trump has lied obviously about many things since taking office. I'm not talking about 'in my opinion, this is incorrect;' there are easily verifiable untruths. He's supposed to try to avoid those as a Christian, right? That's where the problem with Christians supporting this man is. He shows no real interest in changing, IMO.

Qpwdaddy
Qpwdaddy

Moral absolutism is the main category of deontological ethics. Deontology bases an act's morality on its adherence to rules. While all categories of deontological ethics hold that absolute morality does exist, not all of them believe that morality lies in the act alone, as moral absolutism teaches. Kantian (or duty ethics) is the other significant form of deontology and says that an act is moral if it is done deliberately and with the right motives. Contemporary deontology says that doing harm is only allowable if it is for a greater good. And the non-aggression principle bases morality on force; a person may only use force or cause harm when defending against an aggressor.

The absolutes in moral absolutism come by their authority in several different ways. Natural law theory says that human nature inexorably reveals some things as absolutely right or wrong. For instance, torturing innocents is absolutely wrong, and any reasonable contemplation of human nature would agree. Contractarianism teaches that morality is determined by a mutual, voluntary agreement between parties. The contract can be a legal document outlining the responsibilities of the parties involved or the assumed civil duties a citizen takes on in exchange for the benefits of living in a society. Divine command theory asserts that the morality of an action is dictated by God. Only God can determine the rules, and we are obligated to follow every word that applies to us.

The Bible teaches moral absolutism in spirit, if not in specifics. We are to look to God's Word, not our own judgment, to know what right and wrong behavior looks like. But because God’s creation reflects His character, it's inevitable that men seeking wisdom would occasionally stumble upon His truths.

God has placed in our hearts a standard of right and wrong that, if followed, would result in our being blessed (Romans 2:14-15). But our fallen nature and bent to sin cloud our conscience. Therefore, the Bible admonishes us to ask God for wisdom (James 1:5). Psalm 119:59 says, "I considered my ways and turned my feet to Your testimonies." Consideration of human nature shows us our inability and our need for God: "If Your law had not been my delight, then I would have perished in my affliction" (Psalm 119:92).

God has set in place certain standards, and it is sin to break those standards. Psalm 24:1 testifies to God's authority: "The earth is the LORD's, and all it contains; the world, and those who dwell in it." He set the absolutes of our morality in His word: "You shall therefore obey the LORD your God, and do His commandments and His statutes which I command you today" (Deuteronomy 27:10). The divine command theory of moral absolutism comes the closest to what the Bible teaches.

Discussing the philosophy of ethics from a secular, humanistic viewpoint is an interesting intellectual exercise, but the simple fact is that fallen man cannot discover truth and goodness without God. Like Abraham, there is only one way that we can be moral: "Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness" (Genesis 15:6). If Franklin is far right then we are in trouble... in that .50 sec clip he never said “never Sin” clearly not the narrative at all ? It does prove you can twist anything to fit your narrative and think it’s intellectual argument...sorry I can’t cast the first stone.

Gretch
Gretch
Qpwdaddy
Qpwdaddy said: Moral absolutism is the main category of deontological ethics. Deontology bases an act's morality on its adherence to rules. While all categories of deontological ethics hold that absolute morality does exist, not all of them believe that morality lies in the act alone, as moral absolutism teaches. Kantian (or duty ethics) is the other significant form of deontology and says that an act is moral if it is done deliberately and with the right motives. Contemporary deontology says that doing harm is only allowable if it is for a greater good. And the non-aggression principle bases morality on force; a person may only use force or cause harm when defending against an aggressor. The absolutes in moral absolutism come by their authority in several different ways. Natural law theory says that human nature inexorably reveals some things as absolutely right or wrong. For instance, torturing innocents is absolutely wrong, and any reasonable contemplation of human nature would agree. Contractarianism teaches that morality is determined by a mutual, voluntary agreement between parties. The contract can be a legal document outlining the responsibilities of the parties involved or the assumed civil duties a citizen takes on in exchange for the benefits of living in a society. Divine command theory asserts that the morality of an action is dictated by God. Only God can determine the rules, and we are obligated to follow every word that applies to us. The Bible teaches moral absolutism in spirit, if not in specifics. We are to look to God's Word, not our own judgment, to know what right and wrong behavior looks like. But because God’s creation reflects His character, it's inevitable that men seeking wisdom would occasionally stumble upon His truths. God has placed in our hearts a standard of right and wrong that, if followed, would result in our being blessed (Romans 2:14-15). But our fallen nature and bent to sin cloud our conscience. Therefore, the Bible admonishes us to ask God for wisdom (James 1:5). Psalm 119:59 says, "I considered my ways and turned my feet to Your testimonies." Consideration of human nature shows us our inability and our need for God: "If Your law had not been my delight, then I would have perished in my affliction" (Psalm 119:92). God has set in place certain standards, and it is sin to break those standards. Psalm 24:1 testifies to God's authority: "The earth is the LORD's, and all it contains; the world, and those who dwell in it." He set the absolutes of our morality in His word: "You shall therefore obey the LORD your God, and do His commandments and His statutes which I command you today" (Deuteronomy 27:10). The divine command theory of moral absolutism comes the closest to what the Bible teaches. Discussing the philosophy of ethics from a secular, humanistic viewpoint is an interesting intellectual exercise, but the simple fact is that fallen man cannot discover truth and goodness without God. Like Abraham, there is only one way that we can be moral: "Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness" (Genesis 15:6). If Franklin is far right then we are in trouble... in that .50 sec clip he never said “never Sin” clearly not the narrative at all ? It does prove you can twist anything to fit your narrative and think it’s intellectual argument...sorry I can’t cast the first stone.

Well put!

thshare
thshare

He lies every day to his staff business associates and the American people. lying is sin.

Donna Ruhl
Donna Ruhl

I truly love what you've written. I'm confused about my own perceptions of "Me" I find myself judging those who stand with Trump. More like, feeling sorry for those who I feel are the lost sheep. But my contempt, has made me feel uneasy, and just as bad as they are, for communications disputed in anger. I would like to know more about your beliefs. I told myself long ago, That I could never follow another's perception of the bible, "Religion" But then, I haven't really read the whole bible myself. And fail to see anything but wisdom to live by between the story lines. I find your wisdom to be enlightening. I've been seeing the numbers 333 on a daily basis for the past 25 years. My quest for answers lead me to the trinity. I always thought it was godly, So every time I see them, I tell God, I love him. And thank him for looking out for me. I wish I could hear more from you. Donna Ruhl.

XaurreauX
XaurreauX

What a sleazebag!

CeciCola
CeciCola

What a pathetic attempt to discredit both Graham and President Trump. A lie. The video #1 didn’t include the question that was asked. #2 Graham clarified that Kennedy and Clinton had affairs during their Presidency. #3 He stated the allegations being made regarding President Trump were prior to his Presidency. #4 Graham NEVER once stated or eluded to the ridiculous statement “President Trump has yet to sin once since being in office” or the other “Trump has not sinned since being in office.” Christian’s will catch this gross misrepresentation immediately. Why? Because Christian’s know full well that we are all sinners. The difference for Christian’s we are forgiven. The post is not a total loss ......... it another great example of poor journalism.

CeciCola
CeciCola

Lying is a sin. Just as libel, slander and bearing false witness. Funny we don’t see our own sins (yes, you can call them faults) as quickly as we see them in others. That’s when Christians are reminded....The same measure we use to judge others is the same measure that will be used to judge us. I lean towards being grateful for the forgiveness I’ve received. Another scripture warns us not to be so concerned about the spec in someone else’s eye when a plank is in our own.

Steve Piantedosi
Steve Piantedosi
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I think Don Lemon answered you better than I can. "Have you read his (Trump's) Twitter account?" Franklin Graham is a two faced Right Wing Christians with the integrity of a 5 dollar whore, which, coincidentally, is what he became when he chose to support the Liar in Chief. As John Pavlovitz put it "This isn't about Donald Trump. He is being who he's always been. This about supposed representatives of Jesus whoring themselves out just to have the President's ear and pretending it's the work of God."

FtS
FtS

Franklin, did you forget vanity is a sin? Also Trump tells more lies than anyone I know.
Plus he's a pervert.

Stopwatch16
Stopwatch16

If being President remits Sin...all of the rest of us are doomed and no one else needs Jesus and the last time I checked Lying is a sin and it doesn't matter that the lie is for "Political" purposes or not...Pastor...! Tell the truth and shame...a President.

loretta dicenso
loretta dicenso

What about trump U? If you scammed hundreds of people out of thousands of dollars it is called grand larceny-And that is a crime-even when fake evangelists do it!

loretta dicenso
loretta dicenso

the fact that he has a team of liars for hire is a crime every time they bullshit the American public-as is making a profit from the office with fake missile strikes he is making millions on!

Viking55
Viking55

Since when was Franklin Graham appointed the person who knows when a person sins or not? Seems to me that he is elevating himself to a deity. I also believe that lying, bearing false witness, is a sin and Trump lies daily.

dwain
dwain

another super rich preacher...would rather go to the poorest church in town than attend one of his (graham !!'s) sermons.

Rick2018
Rick2018

Of course the trump supporters (walking braindead) will follow their fuher (most vile human alive) no matter what he does. Oh and it's not bad journalism you gun toting, flag waving idiot, it's the truth.

ladybear
ladybear

Trump has stopped sinning? It's a miracle!

Dyannebt
Dyannebt

So lying is not a sin then huh ????

Wxchaser
Wxchaser

I have my doubts Trump hasn't sinned since becoming President. If this is true, he'd be the first in 2000 years. I'll say this much about Franklin Graham though, regardless of how much I disagree with him politically. Definitely not a conservative here! Anyhow, he brought people to New Orleans after Katrina in 2005 and they stayed a considerable amount of time helping everyone. That was definitely appreciated by everyone including myself. I actually met and talked with him during that time and he seemed like a very nice person.

Diamontails1
Diamontails1

The biggest trick the Devil ever did was convincing bigot, racists, homophobia, and mysogenic folks that they were patriotic Christians. Sad.

Norm Koch
Norm Koch

Intellectualist? lol. You can't even listen. Stopped sinning? That isn't what he said, or even implied. You're not an intellectualist. You're a liar.

jammer5
jammer5

Talk about a god complex with this christofascist moron.

TheRomanD
TheRomanD

@Diamontails1 AMEN...PREACH.

TheRomanD
TheRomanD

@Wxchaser He has sinned daily since he has been in office. A lie is a sin. And from what the Muller Report has reveiled, he has done it many, many, many, many times. He is a sick man that needs mental help.

TheRomanD
TheRomanD

HAHAHAHAHAHA.....@FranklinGraham Man, you have lost touch with MANY things. He commits sin daily. YOU yourself commit sin daily. I know the prez has not back away from all those "Unclean Animals" and such. Paid hush money to hookers, cheated on all his wives and stole money from hookers. But as long as when it was BEFORE his presidency it's ok? You are a SCAM ARTIST that learned from his dad how to convince people to send you cash out of fear mongering. SICK and you say it's gay people who are evil. WTH???

Yohan Henri
Yohan Henri

All men sin daily according to your bible and must repent daily for salvation. Why do all you religious fanatics have to lie everytime you open your mouth?

PatrickDrazen
PatrickDrazen

Are you sure "Trump stopped sinning" when he became POTUS? The way I read the Commandments, remembering the Sabbath does not involve putting together a foursome and hitting the links, playing 18 holes of golf (and CHEATING as much as possible) EVERY SINGLE SUNDAY! We know Trump avoids churches like Dracula avoids crosses! So where is the evidence that he "stopped sinning" when in fact his Presidency has consistently and gleefully broken nine of the Ten Commandments? We know he bears false witness; we know he steals; we know he covets; we know he loves graven images of himself... The Truth shall make you free, Frankie...