Sorry SJWs, You Don't Get to Choose My Race

What do you do when POC go against the oppression narrative? Call them white of course.

If you’re a light-skinned or white-passing “person of color” and you’ve ever spoken out against social justice, you’ve most likely heard these words before.

“What do you know? You’re white.”

“No I’m not,” you might have said, perhaps equally confused about how they could have categorized you so wrongly and why your race even matters in the first place. Personally, “I’m biracial,” or “I’m Asian,” are my follow-ups of choice.

“You don’t count,” they almost always dismiss. “You’re not a real person of color,” might come next if they're feeling charitable. If they’re not, phrases like “race traitor,” “self-loathing,” and slurs such as Uncle Tom and coon will most likely make appearances.

Although there’s certainly no love lost between SJWs and the oft-memed “straight, white, cis males” who criticize them, there’s no question that social justice warriors reserve a special type of vitriol for those in the allegedly oppressed class who go against the party line.

As someone who's biracial, if I were to bemoan my lack of belonging to any one culture and the struggles of being racially ambiguous, I would be celebrated as symbol of strength and bravery by the social justice community. Sites like Salon and Jezebel would write articles commending me for breaking the mold of mono-racial individuals in the public eye (that’s probably what they call them, right?).

As someone who's Asian, if I were to criticize the way society fetishizes me and argue how harmful stereotypes, even positive ones, can be, by now I might have the backing of giants like MTV News or heck, even the Huffington Post. They’d market me as a dangerous force against the prevailing white narrative in independent media. Or something.

However, since I am, in reality, someone who actively speaks out against victimhood and identity politics, and praises our society for the opportunities it offers all people, regardless of race, there’s no fanfare waiting for me from these people who proclaim to be champions for us non-white individuals.

Not only are there no congratulations from the regressive left, when it comes to critiques of my work there are usually harsh words, and perhaps most frustratingly, denials of my status as a person of color.

You see, social justice aims to paint race not as something biological, but rather something social, something that isn’t inherent in our genes, but rather a construct perpetuated by our racist, imperialist culture. We see the extreme forms of this manifested in African-American wannabes like Rachel Dolezal and (although he denies it) Shaun King who are in actuality whiter than a layer of freshly fallen snow. If race isn't biological, then there's no reason why someone who feels black and identifies with black culture should be unable to really be black with the help of a perm and some self-tanner.

Obviously (to most of us), this concept of race makes as much sense as anti-capitalists organizing rallies on their smartphones. However, one of the more interesting side-effects of viewing race as a social construct is that, if race is indeed cultural and not biological, then denouncing someone as not being of a certain race when they go against the prevailing political opinions of said race makes perfect sense.

The fact that my DNA is of the Han Chinese people doesn’t matter to these constructivists. For them, race is all about experience, and nothing about biology. My race isn't determined by my heritage, it's determined by the fact that I can sort of look white, I might have been “treated” as if I were white, and my political views line up with those of the whites. If I'm unable to identify with the lived experiences of most people of color, then to heck with what science says, I must clearly a white girl. Right?

Wrong. I have news for these SJWs: races aren’t clubs. Races aren’t political parties. Races aren’t ideologies, and races don’t have rites of passage. You don’t get to determine or dismiss someone’s race simply because they don’t fit your narrative as someone who’s oppressed, down-trodden and victimized (or rather, someone who at least thinks they are).

SJWs are obsessed with moral relativism, but this relativism just doesn't translate to something like race. Attempting to paint race not just as our phenotypes, but as our cultural experiences, characters, and political opinions will only ever lead to more racism and more division. So I’m sorry if non-white people like me ruin the narrative of a society that mistreats anyone who isn't European, but that doesn't mean you get to define my ethnicity.

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sjwking
sjwking

No one gives a fuck about what "race" you are as much as your tendency to lecture black/brown people about how much your goofy "white" ass knows more about their history and current experience in the US than they do....because it's not as if shit like there being one of only two major national political parties in the U.S. that is literally the remnants of the antebellum south that has made it a point to make white supremacy part of both their poltical strategy and platform(they have admitted as much more than once).....but hey...when you lack any real talent....being a Nazi always gets views...right ?

Nohmadd
Nohmadd

Okay might be the dumbest mixed ancestry dude in the room. But we are all Humans, and [part of the human race. So why does no one teach that?

Night Hawk
Night Hawk

RM, I'm curious. Any thoughts on why those of mixed race often get labeled as the non-white part of their heritage? BTW, I am of pure European descent but have blood relatives with Hispanic, Black, and Asian DNA in their genetic mix due to marriage and consider them 100% relatives.

Midnight
Midnight

American who is biologically German and PROUD OF IT! And I guess white supremacy must be an AMAZING thing to have, the way people of color trip over each other to be a part of white supremacy nations! Is it not the least bit odd to people, that we have never seen a mass exodus of people fleeing from white majority nations, but rather only too them? You would think, with all the vile things so many non whites spew about whites, that they would give white majority nations a wide berth LOL! It does not matter, because civic nationalism WILL fail. Its failed every time its been attempted in history, In fact. And thankfully white people are FINALLY waking up to the fact we have been duped, and have had our peoples natural altruism and compassion used against us.

philipharding
philipharding

POC is a description of a modern caste system. To hell with that. (Father to two 'Eurasian' children.)

genetd
genetd

"i've grown accustomed to her face" Chris Botti, Dean Martin...

Skidd333
Skidd333

Roaming Millennial said:

"SJWs are obsessed with moral relativism."

In addition to our relativistic era, we are deep into the Postmodern movement. So, everything has become much more personal for no apparent reason. People are drowning in senselessness and can't deal with it, so they are creating categories with false borders and no foundation.

They're desperately trying to define and purpose a life which they have no tools to understand. Trying to find a point to a life in which academia and media asserts is pointless.

mihail
mihail

AAAAAhhhhhhhhh i hate reading, but i want to read this. But i also want to read the C++ documentation. Also my attention span isn't 8 seconds, it's like 2 hours but reading with black text on white background hurts my head.

Cruser
Cruser

How many different races are there then? Human population can be broken down to races: black white, asian,.... Races can be broken down to ethnicity: Asian - Chinese, Korean, Thai, Filipino,.......Ethnicity can be broken down to tribes and families: One lives in northern Beijing with the last name Chang....and local families break down to the individual. The individual is the most diverse element because it is indivisible and always unique.
Grouping individuals to set attributes and identities actually lowers diversity because their unique individuality gets gets drowned in the category they are grouped in.

ColinJames
ColinJames

@NomadfromCrysis In her recent video "Being Mixed: My Eurasian Experience" (which I personally thought was very insightful), she says that her father was Chinese and her mother was Caucasian.

tofu_icecream
tofu_icecream

Hi RM, I never knew you were Asian. Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm the same mix as you but I think I look more asian. People some times make comments that suggest I should be a victim due to being asian or a woman and when I reject this they don't know what to do next. I think asians in general are counted as "POC" when it is convenient for SJWs (when it supports their victim narrative) but not when it doesn't such as when asians on average perform better than whites in academics and salary.

NomadfromCrysis
NomadfromCrysis

@RoamingMillennial I always knew you were Asian, I'm the same mix. Who's the white one in your family, your mother or father?

lloyd
lloyd

I saw Catzie (half of this poetry duo and pictured below) this weekend. I wish I had a recording of the one she did that night.

HenryS
HenryS

What's interesting is, I watched your video with the white nationals and many of their supporters did the exact same thing, they claimed you were not white or not white enough and only saw you as a POC, at least judging from the comment section. Meanwhile, SJWs see you as only white or too white.

RoamingMillennial
RoamingMillennial

@BeingLiberal Did she not want to set up a time for a livestream or something?

BeingLiberal
BeingLiberal

@RoamingMillennial - I believe that @TheMaven's point is to have an open dialog.

RoamingMillennial
RoamingMillennial

@BeingLiberal Sure! She can send a DM my way :)

ben
ben

way to go @BeingLiberal and @RoamingMillennial! Let's get the dialog going!

BeingLiberal
BeingLiberal

@RoamingMillennial - one of our editors, a young, like you Asian-American woman would like to talk with you : https://www.themaven.net/beingliberal/room/0KBJsSM-pUuECZFEy3dDxA

TheAuthor01
TheAuthor01

One interesting take on this is that the left is the same way with disabilities. I have a physical challenge (it's not a disability, I can still do things just not stand for eight hours). The left is the same way with disabilities. I have been called a sociopath and been accused of hating people with disabilities for defending someone who was disabled and had a Trump sticker. Many African American conservative commentators are called racist names for not agreeing with Obama. Can you think of anything more disgusting? I've had a liberal professor say that The Bill Cosby Show was about a white family with black actors. It is not fair to say that Black Culture is about being poor. Black Culture is not about lack of money, but being a family. That is the best part of Black Culture and the media loves to ignore this part. The Media are the ones killing Black Culture. Doing drugs is not Black Culture, getting screamed at by your parents for doing drugs is Black Culture.

arimoh419
arimoh419

I think Laura Loomer storming the Shakespeare play proved my point about the revival of right wing social justice warriors and politically correct conservatives.

arimoh419
arimoh419

@Distractionbeast what case you hardly provided any facts or evidence at all. Are you going to ignore Richard Spencer and his gestapo? Richard Spencer is building his own army of Dylann Roof killers. Race matters. Eventually theres going to be a race war with the propaganda the left is pushing.

arimoh419
arimoh419

@heynow thanks but my name is spelled Arim Oh idiotic degenerate lol

heynow
heynow

Arimho - fair point.

Distractionbeast
Distractionbeast

Uh... wow. I think I'll just rest my case.

arimoh419
arimoh419

@heynow I never said all White male with asian female couples were racist and toxic but a number of then are. Its strange that Asian women who marry outside of their race goes straight for white men and its kind of disgusting to see these two jump at eachother. Asian women are the most likely to marry outside of their race according to the pewresearch and I've see these couples from time to time but i do think a lot of the ones I've met are decent people. A lot of the Eurasian kids I know have great parents who don't push them and love then for who they are whether or not they don't do well in school. However there are a number of WMAF (White Male and Asian Female) which are toxic and racist loke the parents of the serial killer Elliot Rodgers who was self hating hapa who hated asian males and his asian side. When it comes to hapa criminals WMAF hapas make up the vast majority of hapa criminals and their more likely to have mental illness and more likely to commit crimes. It has all to do with the bad parenting by a number of white men and asian women or tiger moms. In parts of Asia whiteness is celebrated as being beautiful unlike the rest of the world which is vilified. Especially in Europe where whites hate eachother that they want mass illegal immigration so whites become a minorty and even extinct lol. White foreigners who come to countries like Japan, China, and South Korea usually are looked upon as wealthy and most beautiful. At least it was when I was there. Whites are to have higher social status mainly because whiteness meant you were wealthy and didn't go outside a lot but having darker and even black skin meant you were poor, dirty, and had to work outside in the fields. A number of Asian women who marry white guys marry not only because they have white skin but also because of socual status I mean a lot of these asian women with ehite husbands that I've met have called blacks niggers and said racist stuff about them. That doesn't make them bad or evil just misinformed to put it lightly. With that said I hope we can discuss more on this topic if you like I didn't want to say to much because this comment is long enough already lol.

Distractionbeast
Distractionbeast

Race is used now as just another convenient label to group us together into digestible chunks as we wait to be devoured on the progressive dinner plate. This is evident by how fluid and arbitrary the labels are. A conservative Cuban can now be labeled a "white Hispanic" for purposes of division and destruction. A mixed parentage "black/white" person can be called either "multi-ethnic", "white" or "African-American" based on political leanings, regardless of their actual color, ethnicity or country of origin. We need to wake up to this reality and learn to resist this categorization before it destroys everything that unites us.

Distractionbeast
Distractionbeast

It's always amazing to me how race-focused some so-called progressive people are as they cry "racism" on others. It's amazing we ever managed to wrench slavery from their hands, historically speaking.

If the national the national stage was consistently focused on the evils of being black, or Asian, we would undoubtedly spend our time on that. Instead, the topic of the times is "evil white male Christian" and so that's where our attention is necessarily spent.

arimoh419
arimoh419

Whatever you may think of me just know that I've given nothing but praise to all the right wing YouTubers and helped against the fight against the regressive left and alt left and leftwing sjws. Criticosm must be given to our right wing YouTubers or they become right wing sjws and the cycle continues over and over again im politics which it probably will. You're a beautiful, Intelligent, and for the most part open minded person but you've become right wing PC. At least secular talk and I don't like that guy has videos where he sounds more right wing and conservative which is why the left kind of hates him now and his videos are being demonitized. Its called non biased and balance.

arimoh419
arimoh419

@lloyd It's not really personal because Roaming Millennial hasn't done anything to me directly at least not until now. Also Roaming Millennial hypocrisy and double standards with not wanting to talk to hapas and calling then racists but shes either to stupid or to naive to not know or not remember the Hapa white suprecmist murderer Elliot Rodgers who hated his Asian side and hated Asian men. Almost every right wing YouTuber had never reported on Elliot Rodgers shootings because he was a white nationalist. While the left wing may always defend terrorist who are not white at least they report it but right wingers like roaming millennial will never report on white nationalists or white suprecmist and will turn a blind. If Richard Spencer or any other ehite nationalist group gains more support we are going to see more Elliot Rodgers and more Dylann Roofs. Negative stereotypes about asian men is a serious problem and the left at least seems to be addressing it while @RoamingMillennial seems to fawn over white nationalists.

arimoh419
arimoh419

@RoamingMillennial no matter how many alt right people you interview or how much you def2nd white people or how much makeup you put on to make your skin more bleach and hair more blonde you'll never be completely white in the eyes of white suprecmist or the neckbeard losers who watch you. You will always look more asian. You are obviously more Asian looking just by looking at your facial features lol. Everyone could already before you told everyone who your parents were. Being pale isn't good for you because it makes you look like a talking corpse. Spend more time outside in the sunlight because you need vitamin D.

Distractionbeast
Distractionbeast

How exactly did white and black become "races"?

Segev
Segev

You're hitting very close to a point I realized a while back and have been trying to articulate since: race, to the race-industry grievance peddlers, is culture. Which is perhaps the most racist thing one can possibly practice. To them, if you are of a particular skin color, this DICTATES your culture. You MUST conform to the culture they define for you. Your behaviors - bad or good - are 100% excused and explained by your skin color. You're helpless to change them. This is why bad behavior and poisonous cultures cannot be called out as such without cries of "racism!" being bandied about. And, if you dare disprove their racist narrative that your skin color determines your culture by acting like a member of a culture other than that to which they assign you, then you are, as you said, "not a real [race]" or are a "race traitor." This also explains their whole vendetta against "cultural appropriation." After all, if skin color dictates culture, then you MUST embrace your skin-color associated culture and your skin-color associated culture ONLY. To embrace any other is to be "ashamed" of your cultural traditions (if you're non-white) or to be wickedly "stealing" the culture of a superior skin color (if you are white).

epiphanyexe
epiphanyexe

I am so, so glad that you wrote this article. Ever since stating that I'm an egalitarian, disavowing my old third wave feminist beliefs, and finding out that I'm a libertarian--I've been called racist by my old friends, which was very weird. I'm also biracial (half black/half white), and this person had always considered me black and always said that black people can't be racist. But now, since I go against their narrative, I'm now considered white? That's a very, very strange ideology to live by.

CryingLibralLaughing
CryingLibralLaughing

My mom always says no one can tell you who or what you are, that it's up to us as individuals to be proud and confident of who you are and who you could be. Sounds like a lot of people are possibly listening to much to others as the seek external validation to justify their shallow, meaningless existence. It is scary to be alone: you enter by yourself, you fall asleep by yourself and you will leave the world by yourself. So, it's really up to folks to choose to listen and identify with what other say about them. Abusive people can push their values on other people, like those horrible parents who called their daughter "idiot" for so long that she really thought her name was "idiot". But healthy strong people consider, and then pick and choose what to bring into their identity, not just accept what anyone says about them. As far as most clubs I'm aware of, they are voluntary, I am not aware of any clubs that others force you to, unless they are 80s music night. ;)

android927
android927

This video is about evolution, but the same concept can be applied to race: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdWLhXi24Mo

android927
android927

SJWs are partially correct when they say that race is a social construct. Obviously race is encoded in our DNA, but there are no naturally set categories to define different races by as race is more of a continuum. Similar to how the definitions of different dog breeds are arbitrarily set by various dog show organizations, or how evolution is a gradual process with no clear line between where one species ends and another begins. If you look at a map of Eurasia that is colored to represent race, there is no point where people stop being European and start being Asian; rather, the people will become gradually more Asian as you move east and gradually more European as you move west. The common mistake SJWs make is to assume that race itself is a social construct, when in reality it is our different racial categories that are socially constructed around the biological reality of race. Another common SJW mistake is to assume that this also applies to gender. I have no problem with trans people getting gender reassignment surgery to treat their condition, but i also recognize that a person is biologically male if they possess a Y chromosome and biologically female if they posses an X chromosome. Unlike race, nature has provided our species with a natural boundary between male and female, and our ability to reproduce is entirely dependent on this natural distinction. Obviously you can say that gender expression is a social construct, but biological sex is (in regards to humans and other sexually dimorphic species) irrefutably a natural construct.

lloyd
lloyd

I'm glad you took the time to explain your meaning a little more. I was with you when you talked about the negative stereotypes asian men face but then it started sounding really cranky and personal.

arimoh419
arimoh419

Seems like you won't discuss certain topics after your humiliating defeat with vegan gains and I know that guy is a psycho and I hate that guy but he had facts which is something you didn't. You had no sources or information and no prep time, you got emotional in the debate. You accused me of having personal insecurities when you don't even know that I love being Korean and Asian but I can't say the same of you. Funny thing is I really like you and your content but the way you tried to dismiss my comment and direct me to that failing pile of garbage Buzzfeed was cowardly. Like the other right wing YouTubers who have fought against the establishment and SJWs leftists, you in particular have done some things that are quite questionable like allowing Richard Spencer to freely speak during the interview and taking his words at face value despite the fact he was a racist who hypocritically and inconsistently date mostly Asian women in the past and his fellow white supremacists have yellow fever with Asian girlfriends and wives and yet you don't call them out as the racist hypocrites as they are. Sucks for you Dylann Roof was sentenced to death for shooting up a black church and killing 9 people otherwise you probably would have interviewed him as well since hes a mass murdering white supremacist and you to love interviewing those kinds of people. It concerns me and makes me worried for you that you've had to censor and even outright ignore criticisms. I don't know if you've muted me and I may never know but the fact is few of your fans have already blocked me and retreated to their safe space which is pathetic considering I only talked about certain things you were doing. Fact of the matter is I've done really is mostly praising you and the other right wing YouTubers since I became a conservative since I was 20 and supported Donald Trump and still do. The fact my criticism is dismissed or attacked by other right wingers and even alt right shows Right Wingers have become so big it concerns me you guys are on a slippery slope and are beginning to forget what made you guys so much greater and bigger than the other guys on the left. Its going to get to a point where people like me are going to get attacked and berated simply for disagreeing with you. It's going to come to a point where you right wingers turn a blind eye to hate crimes and violent bloodshed by whites like the Charleston Shooting by Dylann Roof which non of you Right wingers have had the guts to report on. Only Paul Joseph Watson actually had the decency to make a video on it and it sucked anyway. What about in Sweden where a Swedish white supremacist dressed like a Nazi went on to kill a teacher and student and wound a few others in a school with a sword and was eventually shot and killed by the police. I'm concerned that one day if Richard Spencer and his movement continues to grow we will see an increase of attacks like this on innocent people and you Right Wingers will stay silent. I hope you and the other right winger don't become like the left who makes excuses whenever theres a terrorist attack by leftists or Islamist or black thugs like the black lives matter traitors and proceeds to blame inanimate objects like guns, knives, trucks, cars, swords, machetes, bats, and so on. All I ask is that you don't try to assume that my comments don't mean any offense to you as a person or as a conservative. You're beautiful, intelligent, and have great things in store for you in the future and I hope we can talk about certain unpopular subjects which don't appeal to right wingers such as yourself.

arimoh419
arimoh419

@RoamingMillennial Kind of right wing social justice of you to assume i have personal insecurities when you have insecurities about your own racial identity being hapa. Buzzfeed is cancer they don't understand either. You say your channel isn't about racial stereotypes but a number of your videos are always talking about prpblems white people face like birthrates, white guilt, and the refugee crisis and so on and you defending white people. I'm will to have a discussion about certain topics and to praise and criticise you but you were so butt hurt of my last critcism that you don't seem to want to have a discussion or address certain criticism at all. For a person who is "Free Minded" or willing to talk about any subject seems you don't want to discuss after your defeated debate with vegan gains.

forbidden-donut
forbidden-donut

If SJWs see race as a club/ideology, you'd think they'd be fine with cultural appropriation.

Asaf
Asaf

When SJWs say "White", they don't reger to the skin color, they mean ""Educated, successful, self-relying person". So they're actually complementing you, in a sad, angry, envious petty way.

RoamingMillennial
RoamingMillennial

@arimoh419 Sorry if my channel isn't doing enough to help your personal insecurities, but honestly that really isn't my job. My channel isn't one that complains about racial stereotypes, I think you're thinking of Buzzfeed.

ETRADEBABY
ETRADEBABY

I'm part white and Japanese (1/4) so I feel mixed but look white for the most part. I'm married to a Filipina and our child is super mixed. Kind of like a chameleon, I can be white or pass as Asian-light at times, or just 'other.' I find that people get really confused when they discover I am not totally white--like they suddenly have to recalculate what I am in their mind beep. load new program If people don't know how to categorize and analyse you they get very confused. And that process makes people seem very prejudiced and shallow, I can't stand it. Am I the oppressor or the oppressee? Am I self-loathing--can I have pride in my race(s)? This situations makes me feel alienated from identity politics, so I can often see things very objectively. On the subway a black man was begging for money, using a ploy that he needed shoes, because he was barefoot. I was taking my son home and ignored him. He called me "white motherfucker!". And I was confused, sort of offended by also I am not really. Was I oppressing him or something? Was he resentful for what he thought I represented white people? Other times in my life I have been called "fag!" while I'm not gay at all. Or thought to be a Mexican when I lived in California. Or called "white boy" by Mexicans in school. But once you reveal that you are part of group like my Asian friends in High School that I am part Asian, suddenly I'm cool and I get to hear them say racist stuff about white people just like my white friends would say racist stuff about blacks and Asians. I can't imagine what it's like to just be one ethnicity and follow the party-line. There is so much racial bullshit, I can't even stand it, but at least I think I have an outside view and I can see both the groups on the Left and the Right acting foolish. It really doesn't matter what you are, you can be your own person.

SwellFloop
SwellFloop

Hey Roaming.... I'm actually the same race as you, half Chinese and half Caucasian, and I'm also a female. I actually pretty much look like I'm white, which makes it harder for me to feel like I can speak up about race issues without being shamed for my race (and then if I do say that I'm actually half Chinese it sounds like I'm just trying to be "special" or something). I don't necessarily agree with you all the time, but it's nice to have somebody who I can look up to who is the same race and gender as me yet doesn't let those things define her or stop her from talking about important issues. It means a lot to me. :)

whitefatass
whitefatass

these people are just blinded by their echo chamber, you're awesome roaming and don't let anyone get you down :)

heynow
heynow

RM - We are all stuck with you racial identities, for good or ill, and regardless of what you say or do you are a POC and the SJMs just have to face the simple facts that not every POC claims victim hood.

heynow
heynow

Arimoh 419 - Seems like you may have some rather negative and hurtful stereotypes concerning Asian women and some negative stereotypes about white men. Just something to think about.

asdfghjkl
asdfghjkl

There is another related problem with SJWs in that they also label any mixed white POC as White when they're accused of committing a racially motivated crime. Neither Daniel Holtzclaw nor George Zimmerman, for example, are monoracial White people and the SJWs know it, but SJWs still label these two men as WHITE to fit their narrative that only Whites can be racist. In reality, Holtzclaw proved that POC can also be racist, and not because Eurasians are "basically white."



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