Affirmative Action: ACTUAL Institutionalized Racial Discrimination! (Site Exclusive)

Let's talk about affirmative action and who REALLY gets hurt when racially discriminatory admissions policies are implemented.

Sorry about the audio quality.

Never again with that mic.

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Segev
Segev

Out of curiosity, Roaming Millennial, what would you go back to school for your graduate degree in? As to the thrust of the video: as long as we treat race as if it is significant in determining success, it will be made significant in determining success. The only way to overcome racial biases is to stop focusing on race. If you're really worried that a given program is STILL discriminating, depersonalize the applications and use double-blind judgment to pick and choose. If you're doing the common apologist maneuver of saying it's systemic, and so the poor disadvantaged minorities who were syetemically undereducated and put down throughout childhood need the leg up to get into college, then address the systemic problems. It's too late to "fix" it by a cosmetic acceptance into a program for which their supposedly racially disadvantaged upbringing didn't prepare them. If you want to do something for those you feel are disadvantaged as they're about to enter college, make the education they're missing available to them. Don't force them into situations for which they're not prepared. And make those opportunities available to everybody, regardless of race, who needs the help catching up to be ready for college. You'll achieve more racial equality by removing race from the criteria for consideration than you will by any measure of well-intentioned racism to favor those you consider victims of prior racism.

soxfan2017
soxfan2017

Even with Affirmative Action, blacks and hispanics are still the most underrepresented populations at universities around the country.

TontonStef
TontonStef

Excellent data. The audio isn't so bad if played on ok speakers through minimal EQ.But... Small suggestion: you should slow down the pace of your speech.

F0XTR0T06
F0XTR0T06

This is why some of us call it "affirmative racism". College is not the only place its "practiced". Its HUGE in the US Armed Forces. I've experienced it in the workplace many many times. People "being judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin" seems to only have been a dream.

Eric-Williams
Eric-Williams

I wonder if Canadian universities also use affirmative actions during the selection process and if they discriminate against certain groups?

Tarsius
Tarsius

Ok so I don't agree completely, my bad I didn't understand the "disbanding teachers unions" part. I think disbanding unions is usually a really bad idea and just robs people of their voice.

Armadillo
Armadillo

@heynow Yeah, I thought she said that too...

heynow
heynow

At first I thought you said that you were for, "Hispanic teachers' unions" and that really confused me, because it did not seem to go along with the rest of your philosophy, and I had never heard of such a thing. But then I went back and heard that you said, "disbanding teachers' unions." Oh. That fits better.

Armadillo
Armadillo

Well done! And the mic wasnt THAT bad.

Warm_Sunrise
Warm_Sunrise

Politicians are too afraid of making the necessary adjustments to AA so that it can be more compatible with a multiracial society. This will cause so much problems in the future if they aren't revised soon.

JamesLeoBerlo
JamesLeoBerlo

I always wanted to be a Boston Fireman since I could remember ,after 7 years and 3 exams in that period I got a perfect score of 100% each time, I also got 100% on the Boston Police Civil Service exam and this Police Cadet Program I got the highest score outright. I had an awful upbringing when people were truly poor in two of Bostons worst ghetto's and had to leave school in fourth grade because of forced Busing . I had no white privilege. When I got on Boston Fire only 23 out of over 10,000 had perfect scores, they could only take half so put our names in a Hat and I lucked out . Yet non Citizens with a score that would be a total failure if you were a Caucasian Man were hired before us. Those who Fathers were Killed on the Job got preference but Affirmative Action went before even those Men.

JamesLeoBerlo
JamesLeoBerlo

I wonder if those who endorse & adore Affirmative Action would get Operated on at Affirmative Action Hospital or Fly Affirmative Action Airline ?

Nighthawk
Nighthawk

The early helping hand for blacks and Latinos, and poor whites for that matter is school choice. There is hard evidence for the benefit, rejecting it to pander to unions eventually leads to the problems we see with affirmative action for college admission.

Caspian_Monster
Caspian_Monster

As always, absence of free market showing - fund more accreditation-providing facilities and the problem will solve itself. Create more grants for start-ups, and the people coming out of those facilities will have something to do to earn their living.

Turtlekin
Turtlekin

Affirmative action is racism in drag

JimKillam
JimKillam

We also need a more relaxed or leveled College/University system. So a college can come up from a C level college (starting point with quick government oversight but lower quality) to an A level college with the same state qualifications we have today. This makes starting a University/College cheaper because the curriculum does not need to pass the rigorous tests and qualifications in the beginning of its inception. Then it could have a period of time to climb the ladder into the A level of college curriculum. Or we could have a state central curriculum renting system. Where college professors rent out their pre-qualified curriculum to multiple teachers across the state(s).

JurassinForTrouble
JurassinForTrouble

You mentioned you recently finished college. What was your degree in? Was it related to politics or economics at all?

Jimmy_Nelly
Jimmy_Nelly

Also, why do you think politicians create measures such as affirmative action? Is it to manipulate the figures as such to make it seem as though every perceived ethnic group is doing well so they can secure their votes?

Jimmy_Nelly
Jimmy_Nelly

@RoamingMillennial you say you sympathise with the people who say affirmative action helps disadvantaged people do better in their lives but you didn't bring up the point that it could theoretically give an advantage to a rich black person over a poor Asian person? So wouldn't a better solution be to have affirmative action based on wealth rather than race/ethnicity?

Tarsius
Tarsius

I (begrudgingly) completely agree with you on this. Imho quotas and things like affirmative action are useless and discriminatory. If you want to give African Americans or Hispanics a hand you should start way earlier, preferably at the first schoolyears.
Furthermore it would probably be useful to provide help in case someones financial background is not very good, but that should go for every poor person regardless of skin color.
There might still be the problem that racist people might discriminate during the admission, but couldn't that be solved by making applications anonymous instead of discriminating the other way around?

AndrewM
AndrewM

@RoamingMillennial I think that it's a winning battle, it just requires as much patience as the progressive movement has used to get it locked in. Keep up the good fight!

RoamingMillennial
RoamingMillennial

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@AndrewM We can always dream I guess, no matter how futile XD

RamsayBolton
RamsayBolton

@RoamingMillennial You might want to read up about Dylan Roof's manifesto if you're still researching your video on the Unite The Right stuff. It's highly relevant I would argue. I saw excerpts on his wikipedia page, which now seem to have been removed, talking about how he went "postal" after all the race baiting in the media around the Trayvon Martin case. Obviously we're going to see more highly irresponsible "evil white man" stuff when there may well be more disenfranchised young white men out there for whom violence is well within their comfort zone. I think it's especially important at times like this to attempt to deescalate matters, not virtue signal at the expense of behaving in a responsible way. Youtuber Vee was talking about collectivists, and how morality only extends to their in-group, but also how they're happy to sacrifice members of their in-group for the "greater good". Obviously the more far right white guys murder people, the more certain people get to say "I told you so", and virtue signal further, which is what they care about more than anything - portraying the people they disagree with as evil, then conflating them all into the same out-group.

AndrewM
AndrewM

How to swim against the stream: "The goal of the universities shouldn't be social engineering..." Good luck convincing academia of this :)

RamsayBolton
RamsayBolton

No, indeed not, it's certainly something of an oxymoron.

RoamingMillennial
RoamingMillennial

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@RamsayBolton HA! I hadn't heard "positive discrimination" before. You're right though, it is more accurate, not that you can "positively" discriminate if you ask me.

RamsayBolton
RamsayBolton

It's called Positive Discrimination in the UK, which is probably a more accurate name, if still pretty inaccurate. They had to expand it to include white men from disadvantaged backgrounds, but I'm sure in the end it will be regarded as a failure, assuming common sense prevails.

Venne
Venne

Affirmative Action, more like Affirmative racism.



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