People of Color: You Are Not Oppressed

There's a narrative that's becoming quite popular which argues that people of color, and especially black people, are oppressed in our modern, western society. While it's absolutely true that there are many problems facing black commuties across the country (unemployment, crime, lack of education, fatherlessness), this video discusses whether external oppression or internal cultural issues are to blame.

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Unkl_Chng82
Unkl_Chng82

@sonu Thanks for bringing up those points.

Unkl_Chng82
Unkl_Chng82

(cont.) Can't ignore that America's past with Racial injustice still rears it's ugly head. While some will roll their eyes a just say it's the past we still see instances of these sins repeating themselves. As some of your members above stated that there are many ways African-Americans are treated differently when it comes to the criminal justice system and in other ways. Some of the issue of why this is so complicated is that while the facts have truth so are people's experiences. I apologize if I failed to make this clear.

Unkl_Chng82
Unkl_Chng82

Crap, I did it again... ugh Anyway , while I do agree with some of your points on privilage of Black Americans( as all Americans do have privilage) the issue of racial oppression isnt as simple(no pun intended)as black & white. I'm having a hard time articulating my thoughts but, as Black American who grew up in a working middle class community I can say that I've seen both sides of the coin of privilage/oppression. While the Black Community has had its many successes and has work to do within it's community we can'

Unkl_Chng82
Unkl_Chng82

Sorry I hit enter by accident.

Unkl_Chng82
Unkl_Chng82

Roaming, I enjoy your channel greatly. Unfortunately I was taken back by this video.

bitter-clinger
bitter-clinger

arimoh419-----not only did I never defend Dylan roof, the only statement I have ever made on the Charleston murders was to criticize the pastor That can hardly be considered a defense of roof

tommyh
tommyh

I'm a white veteran. Please don't tell me I need to leave a public arena because of my skin color because I don't want to create a scene. Thank you.

bitter-clinger
bitter-clinger

btw, I don't mind showing my face if you don't mind showing yours

bitter-clinger
bitter-clinger

can you quote me on any defense I might have made for attacks on non whites? didn't think so. and have I ever even mentioned either spencer or roof? didn't think so. The only overt racist I defend is the musician Johnny Rebel, just because he was funny as hell.

bitter-clinger
bitter-clinger

you just hate roaming cuz you AINT roaming.............that girl has class, she 's got style, and you got exactly jack shit you dingleberry on a skunk's ass......roaming rules and you fucking suck hog balls.

lafillefrancaise
lafillefrancaise

Someone has a crush on Roaming Millennial. ;)

bitter-clinger
bitter-clinger

you are the stupid cunt talking to roaming like that, asshole. She has more class and intelligence in her pinky finger than you will everhave in ten lifetimes. I dont see her resorting to calling people cunts to get her point across. fact is, even when discussing hot button issues, roaming keeps it civil, which is a mark of intelligence, so take your hurry up and buy ass back to your liqour store and sell some malt liqour and newports, hoe.

sonu
sonu

@bitter-clinger here's some proof for you:
http://projects.heraldtribune.com/bias/sentencing/

CryingLibralLaughing
CryingLibralLaughing
CryingLibralLaughing
CryingLibralLaughing

@RoamingMillennial You should dig into some Harry Anslinger next time for some inspiration!

CryingLibralLaughing
CryingLibralLaughing
CryingLibralLaughing
CryingLibralLaughing

in addition, to what @sonu is saying, it wasn't accidental the disparate rates of drug use and arrest rates, recent finding about Nixon https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a-former-nixon-aide-admitted-the-war-on-drugs-was-designed-to-screw-over-blacks-and-hippies-vgtrn

bitter-clinger
bitter-clinger

THe one thing you are absolutely correct on though is that disenfranchisement for life is a total violation of the 8th amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishment........but that is a democratic party policy, started with the gun control act of 1968 signed into law by LBJ

bitter-clinger
bitter-clinger

where is the proof that blacks routinely are given harsher sentences for the same crime? and what the hell dos that mean anywyay. If you can cite thousands upon thousands of provable instances where a black defendnt and a white defendant are given disparate sentences by the same judge in the same county for the exact same crime under the exact same circumstances, when the black and white defenants have the exact same criminal record or lack thereof, then there might be some validity to those claims. there is absolutely no context in that statement....you ever thought that black drug defendants might in geeneral get harsher sentences because of aggravating factors ....like previous record, gang memebership, or being in proximity to a school?

sonu
sonu

And getting harsher sentences for the same crimes is totally fine? Disenfranchising ex-criminals is fine? There is absolutely nothing that can or needs to be done?

RoamingMillennial
RoamingMillennial

@sonu @MartinHughes Black people and white people may do drugs at similar rates, but black people are more likely to be caught and prosecuted for drug possession because they have higher rates of committing other crimes. Drugs are often found on people during searches brought about by other crimes, and since black people are more likely to have interactions with the police, during those interactions their drugs are more likely to be seen. No oppression there if you ask me.

sonu
sonu

Really excellent response by @MartinHughes highlighting how misleading and uneducated this video is. @RoamingMillennial you conveniently forgot to talk about how white people do drugs at a higher rate than black people, and yet black people make up 45% of drug offense-related prisoners, and white people make up only 30%. Not to mention harsher sentences for crack and longer sentences given to black people for the same crimes. You must be aware in states like Florida a criminal record means you lose the right to vote and ex-prisoners literally have to grovel and beg for their rights to be restored to them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGTvcQMv49U. Criminal records make it infinitely harder to get good jobs, which leads to falling back into a life of crime.

bitter-clinger
bitter-clinger

its also real funny how any attack on a non white person by a white person is immediately labeled hate crime and publicized, and if it turns out to be a hoax...SILENCE. Onthe other hand, any time a white(or to a significantly lesser extent, an asian or hispanic) is attacked by blacks, even if it is obviously racially motivated, it is never classified as a hate crime and often not even mentioned. A perfect example is the case of the retarded kid in chicago who was kidnapped and brutalized by dindu's. The media downplayed the incident, as did the police. and a reporter even made light of the incident saying"poor white people" sarcastically. White Americans in the inner cities----wake up! the police will not protect you, you will get no help from government, media or any other quarter. Your only option is to arm yourselves, and more importantly learn to be proficient with your arms. Find a sidearm that you are comfortable with, one that is ergonomic. practice with it. Not just standing in one spot at the range putting holes in paper. get involved with tactical shooting practice. 3-gun, cowboy action, CQB, whatever. Just practice, practice practice. and NEVER, EVER leave your residence unarmed. If you are going to an establishment that bans carrying, carry anyway, but just conceal it(for instance when I go to bars, I take off my .44, but still carry my .22 in my ankle holster). Remember, your life is in your hands and your hands only, and if you are white, or to a lesser extent, any other non-black ethnicity in America's inner cities, there is a war on you....act accordingly

TheNewLiberal
TheNewLiberal

Maybe it's not '"oppression", but "racist attacks". If the meaning of oppression is more physical and brutal, then I guess all races are oppressed and not just us POC.

bitter-clinger
bitter-clinger

a) there are more blacks than whites in inner city areas with more cops. more cops=more likelyhood of people gettin busted.

bitter-clinger
bitter-clinger

another BIG reason why blacks are arrested for marijuana more than whites(and asians and mexicans for that matter) despite similar rates of use has A LOT to do with two factors
a) innner city areas with large police presence are mostly black, not white

arimoh419
arimoh419

There is no such thing as oppression but there are harmful stereotypes like for example because most crimes are committed by blacks they're more likely to be stopped by the police but less likely to be shot. Unarmed whites are more likely to be shot by the police than unarmed blacks. Black fathers are barely existent with more than 80% of black women being single mothers who are married to the Government. White Privilege may not exist for the most part in America and in Europe but it does exist in parts of Asia such as in South Korea, Japan, and Hong Kong. Over one third of rapes in the South Korea's capital city Seoul are committed by white males which make up a tiny percentage of the population. Sound familiar? Sounds kind of like Sweden with a migrant problem except its white males and no right winger seems to talk about it because their white and destroys the whites aren't racist narrative. Also white teachers are paid more than Asian teachers even if a lot of them are less fluent and less skilled its all about hiring white men in parts of Asia. How ever in South Africa theres black privilege where blacks are free to rape and murder whites and its protected and covered up by the Government. South Africa has one of the largest murders rates in the world and a lot of the victims are white and whites can't do anything because white south Africans are a minority and blacks have affirmative action. Sound familiar? In the United States Asians don't have much power in politics and no say in matters because we are a tiny minority. The police did not protect Koreans during the LA Riots so thats why a lot of us don't like cops. I think you are trying to white wash certain issues that do exist but you don't want to talk about them because you're a half breed and sympathetic to the alt right. Try bringing on hapas, blacks, Muslims, Hispanics, Asians, and other groups to interview instead of insulting them and interviewing those who share your viewpoints. I guess you are more right wing than Richard Spencer.

Nick
Nick

Interesting point of view. I enjoyed hearing a new voice about this controversial topic. I do disagree on some points of the video, but my mind was changed for some things for the video.

Frederick
Frederick

Hi Ibrindley, and thank you for the reply.

In the United States, having a felony or previous indictable record will determine sentencing. If the Defendant had an unlawful firearm when arrested, will also weigh heavily at sentencing. Giving a Black convict a heavier sentence simply because they’re Black, would be grounds for appeal.

lbrindley
lbrindley

@Frederick - Violent crime such as murder is a completely different thing from petty drug crimes. Generally, whites have the means to afford good lawyers to help them get out of the penalties for drug possession more than people of color do. I was not referring to the ratio of crimes to overall population of whites/blacks.

Frederick
Frederick

@lbrindley

I remember when I was in university. One summer there was 27 firearm related murders in Toronto. Of the 27 murders, 25 were committed by young Black men killing other young Black men. If I use your reasoning, that makes Toronto’s population 90% Black citizens. But the reality is about 11% are of Black ancestry.

There is also another valid reason why Brown/Black men have higher conviction rates. About 90% of all illegal weapons charges in Toronto are Black, Pakistani and Somalian. Crown attorneys typically plea-bargain away the serious weapon charges for lower convictions of drug possession.

RoamingMillennial
RoamingMillennial

@lbrindley I think @Gable has it exactly right, many drug charges come about when suspects are stopped and searched for other reasons when the drugs are discovered. If African Americans have more interactions with cops, even if their marijuana use is not much different than it is for white people, it would make sense that they are charged more often. IMO this is another definite inconsistency between the races, but not one that is the result of systemic oppression.

Gable
Gable

They are also more active in those communities because of other crimes which draw attention and more presence from the police. This will increase the chances that someone doing something minor, for example smoking pot, would be caught doing so.

MarkWazz
MarkWazz

@lbrindley I would still insist that such a statistic is circumstantial and would reject the idea that police are actively looking harder for black drug users. They're looking for drugs, period, wherever they may be.

lbrindley
lbrindley

I am with you that there is no "legal" oppression against people of color, there is still systematic racism that exists in society. For example, blacks and whites use marijuana at about the same rate, yet blacks get arrested for illegal marijuana use almost 4 times as much as whites do. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kim-farbota/black-crime-rates-your-st_b_8078586.html



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